Friedrich Schinnerer–Immigration & 1st Marriage

Meet Friedrich Schinnerer, my great-great-grandfather. He was born in Ipsheim, Bad-Windsheim, Kingdom of Bavaria, on 8 May 1824, the third child of Georg Michael and Anna Barbara (Zeller) Schinnerer. His paternal grandparents were Johann Conrad and Margaretha (Doepert) Schinnerer. [1]

Friedrich Schinnerer (1824-1905)

Friedrich Schinnerer (1824-1905)

When he was almost 25 years of age Friedrich sailed from Le Havre, France, on the ship Harve and arrived in New York on 16 June 1849. [2] On the passenger list his name looks like Friedrich “Schemerer.” Next to him on the list was Marg. “Deir.” He was 24 years old and she was 26. Both were from Prussia.

The U.S. ship Havre was built at New York in 1845 for Fox & Livingston’s Union Line and it sailed with the line for 17 years. The two deck ship was built of white oak and weighed 870 tons. The average voyage from Europe to New York was 34 days. [3]   

Ship Havre passenger list, June 1849.

Friedrich and Margaretha, Havre passenger list, June 1849.

It appears that Friedrich was traveling with Margaretha Deier, the woman listed next to him on the passenger list. Soon after arriving in New York, Friedrich and Margaretha traveled to Cleveland, Ohio, where they married on 4 July 1849. They were married by C.A.H. Allardt, Minister of the Gospel. [4] Rev. Allardt was the pastor of Cleveland’s Schifflein Christi Church [Little Boat of Jesus], a German Evangelical Protestant church, founded in 1835, located at Erie and Hamilton Streets. [5]   

Friedrich Schinnerer, Margaretha Deier marriage record, Cuyahoga Co., Oh, Vol 5:4, 4 Jul 1849.

Friedrich Schinnerer, Margaretha Deier marriage record, Cuyahoga Co., Oh, Vol 5:4, 4 Jul 1849.

Soon after their marriage the Schinnerer couple traveled to Mercer County, Ohio, and set up residence in the Rockford area. It was there, in Dublin Township, that the first of their eight children was born. According to the records of Zion Lutheran, Schumm, Rosina Dorothea Schinnerer was born 16 August 1849 and was baptized on the 17th, with Jacob Schumm as her sponsor. The records do not give her death date but she was buried on 1 September, at the age of 14 days.

Most of Friedrich and Margaretha’s children died young and only two lived to adulthood. Daughter Anna “Rosine” married Henry Schumm, aka “River Henry,” and daughter Maria Magdalena “Lena” married Christian Hofmann.

In 1850 the Schinnerers were living in Dublin Township, Mercer County, Ohio, enumerated as Frederick and Margt “General.” Their surname was written at “General” and it was a challenge to find them in this census enumeration. However their given names, ages, and places of birth match and they were living next to John Rhodes, for whom Friedrich probably worked. [6] This will be discussed in a future post. Friedrich was 26 and Margaretha was 27 and both were born in Germany. There were no children living with the couple in 1850.

The Schinnerers were still living in Dublin Township in 1860 and there were four children in the household. Their household in 1860: Frederick, 36; Margaret, 38; Frederick, 7; Lucinda, 6; Mary, 4; Magdalena, 3. All the children were born in Ohio. Friedrich must have been doing quite well by this time because they had a servant, Elizabeth Coats, 29, from Germany. An apprentice was also living with them, John Shum, 18, born in Ohio. This may have been the son of Georg Martin and Anna Maria (Pflüger) Schumm, born in 1843 and died in the Civil War. Friedrich’s occupation was given as “flourist,” which I assume was meant to describe his occupation as mill operator. [7]  

Children of Friedrich and Margaretha (Deier) Schinnerer:
Rosina Dorothea (1849-1849)
Susann Barbara (1851-1851)
Frederick Pankratius Martin (1853-1861)
Anna Rosine (1854-1891) Married Henry “River Henry” Schumm in 1872
Maria Margaretha (1855-1861)
Maria Magdalena “Lena” (1857-1934) Married Christian Hofmann in 1879
Johann Martin (1859-1860)
Johann Martin (1861-1862)

Daughter Anna "Rosine" Schinnerer (1854-1891), married "River Henry" Schumm.

Daughter Anna “Rosine” Schinnerer (1854-1891), married “River Henry” Schumm.

According to Zion’s records, Margaretha Schinnerer died in 27 November 1861 of typhoid, at the age of 39 years, 3 months, and 14 days. The record indicates that she was born in Ipsheim, Bavaria, on 12 August 1822, that she traveled to America in June 1849, and that she married 16 Aug 1849 in Cleveland. The last date was actually the date their daughter Rosina Dorothea was born. Although Margaretha is buried in Zion Lutheran Cemetery her tombstone does not remain today.

Widower Friedrich Schinnerer married Elisabeth Schumm on 12 June 1862.

Next: Friedrich’s livelihood.


[1] Information about our German Schinnerer ancestors is from distant cousin Barry James Schinnerer, who compiled Schinnerer Genealogy 1545-2003, privately printed. Barry’s research came from several German sources: an early 1900 Schinnerer genealogy by Paul Schiennerer; a genealogy by Schinnerer descendant Hans Ulrich Pudelko; information from Walkther Gresser, husband of a Schinnerer descendant; church records; and the Brenner Collection [church, census and civil records from Mittelfranken, Bavaria, compiled by Tobias Brenner and his research team, contained in over 700 rolls of microfilm at the Family History Library].

[2] Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897, digital image by subscription, ( : accessed 2 February 2014), for Friedrich Schemer, 24, arrived 16 June 1849 aboard Havre; from National Archives microfilm M237, roll 80.   

[3] Palmer List of Merchant Vessels ( : accessed 5 February 2014). Watercolor image of the ship on the website.

[4] Cuyahoga County Marriages Vol.  5: 4, #1, Probate Office, Cleveland, Ohio.

[5] Germans, “Cleveland and Its Neighbors,” : accessed 5 February 2014.

[6] 1850 U.S. Census, Dublin, Mercer County, Ohio, p. 549 (penned) p. 276A (stamped), line 27, dwelling 807, family no. 811, Frederick General; digital image by subscription, ( : accessed 5 February 2014); from National Archives microfilm M432, roll 710.

[7] 1860 U.S. Census, Dublin, Mercer County, Ohio, p. 42, dwelling 296, family 300, Frederick Shimer; digital image by subscription, ( : accessed 5 February 2014); from Family History Library Microfilm 805009,  from National Archives microfilm M653, roll 1009.


  1. And we complain about how hard are lives can be? Wow! All those children born and lost while struggling to keep warm and fed in a new place.

    • Andrew Wagner on August 3, 2017 at 12:35 pm
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    Thank you for posting this information. My ancestors came over on the same journey on the same ship: Havre, arriving in New York City June 16, 1849.

    1. Well that is certainly interesting. What were the names of your ancestors? Thanks for writing!

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